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Tuesday, 9 March 2010

FANTASTIC EPIC FLAMING HYPOCRITE FAIL

quote [ hehe i reposted the ashburn story...found this palin article. didn't have to change the entry title...win! ]

Palin Crossed Border For Canadian Health Care

[politics] [by bigjohnson@1:44amGMT] [+10 Funny]

Comments

Naruki said @ 1:46am GMT on 9th Mar
De ja vu, yeah you know who!

De_Wr0ng said @ 1:52am GMT on 9th Mar
why was he so happy after getting busted for a DUI?

Krutz said @ 1:55am GMT on 9th Mar
In other Palin stupidity, 'God did it, too' is her new justification for writing notes on her hand.

If I were God, I'd feel just a tad insulted and kind of lightning-bolty, if I actually existed.

De_Wr0ng said @ 1:59am GMT on 9th Mar
if you were god, there would be a Palin sex tape!

MmmFiber said @ 2:07am GMT on 9th Mar
If I existed, I would feel things too.

Dioxin said @ 2:06am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]

Ankylosaur said @ 2:28am GMT on 9th Mar
Is that a foot coming out of her vagina?

Spaceloaf said @ 2:32am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:5 Funny]
Don't be ridiculous.

It's going back in.

jaxtraw said @ 2:50am GMT on 9th Mar
Looks like mouldy spooge to me.

sanepride said @ 3:38am GMT on 9th Mar
Gangbang creampie.

Mmmmmmmm.

satanspenis666 said @ 5:25am GMT on 9th Mar
That's what you get when the Russians come knocking on your backdoor.

DungeonKeeper said @ 9:36am GMT on 9th Mar
polar bear skin loincloth.

pleaides said @ 9:57am GMT on 9th Mar
DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A FOOT TO ME!!!

Looked closer to about 8 or 9 inches.

CapnSilver said @ 2:12am GMT on 9th Mar
What happened to Huffington Post? I used to go there for my American news but now the focus is on Snooki's makeover, some model wearing a sheer dress, Christina Hendricks having great boobs and Jonah Falcon being unemployed.

sanepride said @ 2:47am GMT on 9th Mar
Well they do have a fair amount of trash/celeb news, but it's hardly the focus.

scabble said @ 11:38am GMT on 9th Mar
And to be fair, Christina Hendricks really does have some amazing breasts.

foobar said @ 1:58am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]

Yes please.

f00m@nB@r said @ 2:49am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:3 Informative]
http://fuckyeahchristinahendricks.tumblr.com/

jaxtraw said @ 2:24am GMT on 9th Mar
So, Palin openly talking about something her family did when she was a child is comparable to a closeted gay congressman who voted against gay rights caught driving drunk from a gay bar?

You actually consider these two things to be the same?

yevishere said @ 2:33am GMT on 9th Mar
Maybe its because without Canada's socialized health care she would be dead, and thus not spouting nonsense on national TV.

jaxtraw said @ 2:49am GMT on 9th Mar
All she said is-

"“We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada,” she said. “And I think now, isn't that ironic?”"

Nothing about it saving her life. But if it did save her life, so what? If a liberal politician had been saved in her youth by America's corporatist health system, would that make her a hypocrite too?

Also, she looks like a baboon in a wig.

willrogers said @ 9:06am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
That's not what's being argued.

The liberal isn't arguing that no one is ever saved or helped by the corporatist system we have, he/she is arguing that it falls short of covering over 30 million people, is very costly, allows for 45,000 deaths a year (from lack of access), and results in millions of bankruptcy filings every year.

Palin and other conservatives have argued that single payer systems don't work at all and just result in people literally dying while waiting in queues and death panels deciding when people should or should not be treated. They aren't saying that no one ever receives treatment in those countries with socialized systems, but they also make these blatantly false claims about the systems intentionally killing people (like saying Stephen Hawking would die under Britain's system because it would judge him as too costly to treat) and causing deaths from wait times.

The point with this Palin thing is not that she was ever helped or saved by a socialized healthcare system, it is that it was her parents' PREFERENCE to take their kids to the socialized system. They lived near the border and could have gone either way but they chose to go to Canada. Furthermore, it shows that Canada's socialized system is capable of not only handling it's own citizens, but also free riding border crossers like Palin's family.

blackpsypher said @ 2:54am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
Damn straight, now we can officially blame Canada for the whole Palin debacle.

Joe_Luma said @ 3:53am GMT on 9th Mar
Hey, don't blame us... we just cured her lime disease, then exiled her.

True story.

f00m@nB@r said @ 2:24am GMT on 9th Mar

b said @ 2:27am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Informative]
she better be getting a big fat MSP bill, like i did.

sanepride said @ 3:19am GMT on 9th Mar
Well considering this happened forty years ago, that bill would be past due by now.

b said @ 5:24am GMT on 9th Mar
since when has that stopped a government from trying to collect?

sanepride said @ 2:55am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:2 Insightful]
Not that I don't consider her a flaming hypocrite, or that I relish the idea of defending her.

But - this occurred when she was a small child living in rural Alaska -"up to the age of six". So really she really had no choice in the matter.
So, sorry to say, no story here.

King of the Hill said @ 3:31am GMT on 9th Mar
That, and given how remote Alaska is/was that probably was the best choice back then and for that matter may still be.

sanepride said @ 3:37am GMT on 9th Mar
Oh rest assured, if anything like this had actually occurred since she reached some level of adulthood I'd be all over it.

Anyway there's no shortage of actual hypocritical bullshit to pin on her. This is just stupid.

jaxtraw said @ 3:44am GMT on 9th Mar
I was expecting something like she had an abortion. Serious let-down.

sanepride said @ 3:52am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Informative]
Well the fact that her grandson Tripp had benefited from government-provided health care is a little more relevant than this.

jaxtraw said @ 4:05am GMT on 9th Mar
What repels me is the whole Bristol Palin: Abstinence Spokesteen thing. She got pregnant, that's a mistake. Now fuck off and shut up, Bristol. Or at least, get your bristols out in Playboy or something.

She set up a lobbying firm. I mean, fucking hell. Just repels me, the whole thing.

lalanda said @ 9:06am GMT on 9th Mar
Nice use of Bristols. (For those not in the know "Bristol City" = Titty.)

scabble said @ 11:35am GMT on 9th Mar
I wasn't aware of that rhyming slang, but he could have called them "cannons," "headlights," "bazongas," or even "Palins" and I think I would have known where he was going.

jaxtraw said @ 4:13pm GMT on 9th Mar
In the first draft, it was "baps".

DungeonKeeper said @ 9:33am GMT on 9th Mar
we actually have good hospitals now.

willrogers said @ 8:56am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:2 Underrated]
That's not the point.

The point is that she received good healthcare from Canada and benefited from it without paying into the system. She got free healthcare from a single payer system, yet she claims that single payer systems are awful and involve death panels that kill people.

She may not have chosen to go to Canada for healthcare, but YT's system provided her with good healthcare without discrimination and without bankrupting her family or intentionally trying to find ways to deprive her of healthcare, as is done in the US system.

There's a fucking reason Canadians voted Tommy Douglas as the greatest Canadian ever.

sanepride said @ 4:08pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
All I'm saying is you can't hold her responsible for decisions her parents made when she was a tyke. Not only was it completely out of her control but there was most likely no other health care anywhere around where they were.
It's funny that she said it was 'ironic', because obviously it's an irony she doesn't fully appreciate. But being dense in this situation isn't quite the same as being hypocritical.
Believe me, I'm happy to celebrate her bounty of hypocrisies and lunacies, but dwelling on issues from her early childhood just makes her critics look petty. It's ultimately pointless and counter-productive.

foobar said @ 1:46am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

DEATH PANEL! DEATH PANEL! DEATH PANEL!

sanepride said @ 4:21pm GMT on 9th Mar
Also...the story is being hyped as though it happened last week. I actually got all excited when I saw the headline Palin Crossed Border For Canadian Health Care, only to read that it happened over 40 years ago, and that she crossed the border probably strapped into a booster seat with her dad driving the family station wagon. Not quite the same thing.

erich wiess said @ 4:40pm GMT on 9th Mar

"There's a fucking reason Canadians voted Tommy Douglas as the greatest Canadian ever."

Are you sure that wasn't for Douglas's endorsement of eugenics*?

*McLaren, Angus. (1990) Our Own Master Race: Eugenics in Canada, 1885-1945. Toronto: Oxford University Press, pp.8-9."

psychotim said @ 7:52pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
... written in the 30s, when it was still accepted science around the world. Later in his career he declined to support eugenics programs requested by provincial healthcare services, preferring vocational training.

willrogers said @ 8:01pm GMT on 9th Mar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas#M.A._thesis_on_eugenics

He may have studied eugenics, but he never implemented it, and actually did the opposite by trying to help those "subnormal" populations with therapy and vocational therapy instead of sterilization and marginalization.

His endorsement of eugenics not only doesn't diminish his contributions to Saskatchewan and Canada, but they also run counter to his actual actions, like extending healthcare to everyone, irrespective of their race, mental health, morality, etc.

I'd say his actions far outweigh any idiotic comments and research about eugenics.

erich wiess said @ 1:42am GMT on 10th Mar

Believe what you want. We're free agents all of us. Including Douglas when he stated that "medical science declares that it is possible to be sterilized and yet have sexual intercourse. In the main, this is all the defective asks."

Those endorsements of eugenics in the 30's never amounted to much anyway.

willrogers said @ 8:30am GMT on 10th Mar
Yeah, because Canada sure had a robust eugenics program, especially in Saskatchewan, what with all those concentration camps.

The US never had anything like it and nothing in Nazi Germany was influence by the US.

(Hint: guess where the the Nuremberg laws came from?)

Naruki said @ 11:28am GMT on 9th Mar
It would be nice to explain to her that it's ironic because she is fighting the very thing that improved her life.

She probably thinks the irony is something else. Possibly a unicorn.

sanepride said @ 3:59am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 WTF]

sanepride said @ 5:10am GMT on 9th Mar
(it's an apocalyptic seed advertisement btw).

swiggy said @ 5:33am GMT on 9th Mar
non-hybrid seeds: for when people see centuries of plant interbreeding and think "OH MAH JEEZUS GAWD!! SCIENCE IS BAD FOR ME!!!!"

sanepride said @ 5:50am GMT on 9th Mar
You'd think that when the end-times come you'd want the heartiest, fastest growing, most disease-resistant hybrids you could get your hands on.

Polyphemus said @ 3:03pm GMT on 9th Mar
I think the issue is breeding true for seed collection. Many plants we get from the supermarket won't produce viable seed others won't grow the plants the fruit are from. One thing I learnt from the intertubes the other day is that Dessert Bananas are nonviable without cloning ie cuttings. derived from wierd mutation of the plantain.

foobar said @ 1:50am GMT on 10th Mar
And cultivated as such for at least 5,000 years.

vahid said @ 5:17am GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 WTF]
she also says:
When the media first challenged her on the need to write her core beliefs on her hand to remember them, "I didn't really had a good answer, as so often -- is me," Palin quipped at an Ohio Right to Life fundraiser Friday. "But then somebody sent me the other day, Isaiah 49:16, and you need to go home and look it up. Before you look it up, I'll tell you what it says though. It says, hey, if it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it's good enough for me, for us. He says, in that passage, 'I wrote your name on the palm of my hand to remember you,' and I'm like, 'Okay, I'm in good company

willrogers said @ 8:47am GMT on 9th Mar
Bitch is crazy.

(God has a palm?)

DungeonKeeper said @ 9:30am GMT on 9th Mar
we were supposedly made in his image.

personally, i think its the other way round.

Hito said @ 12:47pm GMT on 9th Mar
I always thought of him as an iPhone kind of guy...

solitude said @ 11:31am GMT on 9th Mar

clumsy_juggler said @ 1:06pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
Just to nitpick even further about this.

My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse. Believe it or not – this was in the ‘60s – we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn’t that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada.

This happened in a remote area of Canada in the 60's. Medicare was not a national entity until 1966, so this likely happened before Canada had national Medicare.

Aphex808 said @ 3:10pm GMT on 9th Mar
Yeah I saw this last night too. I hate Sarah Palin A LOT but this one's all bad information. Canada's system, when she went there, was essentially just like ours.

sanepride said @ 4:15pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
Interesting information.
Should be noted however, that Palin was born in '64, and these visits occurred 'up till age 6', so that would be circa 1970.
So most likely yes, her family did take advantage of the nationalized system.

psychotim said @ 8:00pm GMT on 9th Mar
Canada established a government-run national medicare system under its 1966 Medical Care Act. Universal coverage for acute hospital care, for injuries such as burns, came to the Yukon in 1960.

Regardless, even today foreign citizens aren't entitled to free coverage. Canada has free health insurance*, not free health care.

*It's not even free in Alberta, just really cheap.

mrcucumber said @ 1:19pm GMT on 9th Mar
Officials at several hospitals in that area declined to give out information on patient visits.

Because she was diagnosed with a mental disorder?

sanepride said @ 4:18pm GMT on 9th Mar
Frankly I'd be surprised if they even still had patient records from that long ago.

mwoody said @ 4:24pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
Is there a genetic defect called "Pali-N?"